Subject	Not completely true.
Posted by	ni[X]it on December 17, 2006 at 2:59 PM
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In Reply To	Depending on fastener design the phillips head can posted by DAYTONAZ on December 17, 2006 at 07:45 AM
Message	The shear quantity of fastener failures in the aircraft maintenance field is extreme. Philips are rarely used unless it's non-primary structure (closeouts, interior, avionics). Most aircraft manufacturers have moved away from philips head screws. Most skins, if not riveted with solid rivets or Cherry Max, are Offset Cruciform Torq-Set screws. The Torq-Set screw provides more surface area which prevents the bit, or screw head, from being chewed up as easily. AND keep in mind, that screws for structural purposes are virtually, if not completely, non existant. I do agree that using the proper sized bit is essential to preventing damage to any screw head. Petz #3
Follow Ups	Some close-up pics of my new Z1 GT675RS turbos - WAGGZ 20:16:00 12/16/06 The compressor housing doesn't new at all. - Zeus 20:29:52 12/16/06 Yes. - WAGGZ 20:35:06 12/16/06 the compressor side of my GT675RS looked used as well (n/m) - Z Driver 22:02:48 12/16/06 If they are used, perhaps that's the reason for the lower - WAGGZ 22:07:32 12/16/06 Re: The compressor housing doesn't new at all. - John@z1 22:07:46 12/16/06 as convincing as you sound...sure doesn't look like it. (n/m) - Zeus 09:17:50 12/17/06 still not liking the use of phillips head screws (n/m) - Guapo 20:41:10 12/16/06 This might be a noob question, but why is that? (n/m) - KaneZ 21:04:37 12/16/06 Second to the slotted its the worst head design ever (n/m) - RHulme 21:20:15 12/16/06 So nothing specific to their use in this application? - KaneZ 21:26:16 12/16/06 Agreed (n/m) - RHulme 00:19:05 12/17/06 Funny, I vastly prefer the slotted to philips - Technomancer 08:11:39 12/17/06 You mentioned that before.... - WAGGZ 21:25:20 12/16/06 They wont hold a lot of torque, and if they receive - Guapo 21:43:29 12/16/06 clap clap clap..... - dummy76 22:02:00 12/16/06 Perhaps I should look for similar screws with an alan hex - WAGGZ 22:05:07 12/16/06 I was told... - tomhartman 22:36:26 12/16/06 They do that just to hold them on on the assembly line - MyndblurZ 22:47:26 12/16/06 I used a philips bit and a socket attached it to a - twinturbopoweredz 23:44:17 12/16/06 Typically on honda rotors.... - BOOZTD 3 22:51:17 12/16/06 bah ... I refuse to work on Honduh's anymore. - Guapo 22:53:42 12/16/06 Fair enough.... - BOOZTD 3 00:14:01 12/17/06 User error. (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 10:00:35 12/17/06 lol (n/m) - Guapo 11:11:50 12/17/06 Depending on fastener design the phillips head can - DAYTONAZ 07:45:59 12/17/06 Completely agree - Joe(NoVA) 10:00:04 12/17/06 I wasn't worried about looks... - WAGGZ 10:05:04 12/17/06 right. I'm sure Z1 did just as much engineering analysis - Guapo 11:11:12 12/17/06 Not completely true. - ni[X]it 14:59:17 12/17/06 Actually the aircraft industry has moved away from them - SeedyROM 15:43:31 12/17/06 They all have been changed allen head screws (n/m) - John@z1 22:09:32 12/16/06 since when? - WAGGZ 22:11:03 12/16/06 Re: since when? - John@z1 22:16:10 12/16/06 Ah, I see. - WAGGZ 22:20:35 12/16/06 no I'm not work, call us monday (n/m) - John@z1 22:23:33 12/16/06 will do (n/m) - WAGGZ 22:25:40 12/16/06 Waggz spent thousand of dollars on the turbos and parts - Wui (Philly) 08:11:58 12/17/06 agreed (n/m) - TTFairladyZ 10:07:31 12/17/06 Sorry to Z1, look like Waggz bought the turbos from Coz. (n/m) - Wui (Philly) 14:09:12 12/17/06 ... who bought them from Z1 (n/m) - Guapo 14:17:23 12/17/06 actually... - WAGGZ 15:44:52 12/17/06 right ... you paid coz, coz paid z1 (n/m) - Guapo 15:47:30 12/17/06 right - WAGGZ 15:56:40 12/17/06 good. (n/m) - Guapo 22:18:23 12/16/06 Damn, the compressor side looks used and dirty... (n/m) - twinturbopoweredz 21:47:44 12/16/06 It's completely clean... - WAGGZ 22:09:47 12/16/06 They're new, that's why no core charge. (n/m) - John@z1 22:19:50 12/16/06 okay, cool (n/m) - WAGGZ 22:22:57 12/16/06 not trying to start anything - dummy76 22:23:54 12/16/06 Are you saying my photography ain't what it aught to be? - WAGGZ 22:31:44 12/16/06 Re: Are you saying my photography ain't what it aught to be? - dummy76 22:41:17 12/16/06 That's the brightest light in the house. - WAGGZ 22:46:51 12/16/06 That's what usually happens when you do a close up w/ flash (n/m) - twinturbopoweredz 23:40:45 12/16/06 I think the big question is why don't they look like this: - turtleboy 05:42:14 12/17/06 What's the price on those again?....... (n/m) - zboost(tx) 09:10:07 12/17/06 $3200 plus lines and gaskets = $3545 - Joe(NoVA) 09:55:09 12/17/06 I got my kit for $2700. :) - WAGGZ 10:12:46 12/17/06 exactly, he's comparing a more expensive product - zboost(tx) 11:31:14 12/17/06 . (n/m) - SeedyROM 15:47:44 12/17/06 I wasn't trying to make a point, I was asking a question. - turtleboy 17:15:08 12/17/06 I think you missed the argument, pal.... - xxbulovax91xx 22:46:28 12/17/06 That looks more like it. (n/m) - Zeus 09:19:17 12/17/06 Yep more like it! (n/m) - Piranha(Omaha) 09:24:48 12/17/06 Dam, thats the longest f'n post i've ever seen (n/m) - TTFairladyZ 09:25:41 12/17/06 heh (n/m) - maglito 20:40:53 12/17/06 I think those are bead blasted - aliaZ 09:33:50 12/17/06 Comparison pic - Joe(NoVA) 09:52:41 12/17/06 Because Z1 doesn't weld them, requiring prettying - Joe(NoVA) 10:14:34 12/17/06 thats how they come from garrett>> - ztunerz 10:50:59 12/17/06
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